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<  Projects  ~  My Quest for Mid 13's (written June 2007)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:53 pm Reply with quote
Quickest 5sp A187 2.6 Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 968
So this is my Quest for a daily driven full interior car that can reliably pull consistent 13 second 1/4 mile slips on street tires. But most important, it has to take me to work and back everyday.
Well I thought Id put it all in a post for others to see. Hopefully answer some questions for the newbs and maybe save some people a few bucks.

A little background:
Moved to TX in OCT 06 and immediatly bought me another Quest which turned out to be a Lemon!! Evil or Very Mad Didnt even make it the trip home. Paid $1500 for a supposed reliable car and it blew the head gasket/ warped the head maybe 20min into the drive. Stupid me, reliable Conquest. I should have known I was being conned then and there! Rolling Eyes Anyways, after a couple weeks of the runaround from TylerQuest I said screw and pressed on.

The Rest:
Did what I could to make it a nice reliable drive but by December this motors time was up. Driving to work one night I saw the oil pressure flux and then hit the floor! Shocked Pulled over and the engine was drenched in oil. So I refilled it and got the rest of the way to work. End of my shift I come out and no start! 30min of tinkering and it starts and runs fine... hmmmmm...... I get to the base gas station to refill the oil again (I know this thing done but I wanna get home.) Guess what, no start. But this time its done. I get it to the base Hobby Shop, pull the pan and imagine that. Metal shards the size of toothpicks littering the pan.
Pulled the Caravan head that replaced the warped one from the original trip home. Took it to the machinist and what do you know! its cracked! The typical between the valves crack and a really ackward intake runner crack. Hmmm... Oh Well.

Fast Forward:
$275??ish Alabama NJV Head --- DAD
<a href="http://www.enginemachineservice.com/conquest.html" target="_blank">http://www.enginemachineservice.com/conquest.html</a>
$40 Schnieder Valve Springs --- DAD
<a href="http://www.enginemachineservice.com/conquest.html" target="_blank">http://www.enginemachineservice.com/conquest.html</a>
Reused stock valves and cam
Had an Ajusa MLS Gasket laying around
$47 Fel Pro Gasket Set --- DAD
<a href="http://www.enginemachineservice.com/conquest.html" target="_blank">http://www.enginemachineservice.com/conquest.html</a>
$47 Timing Kit --- DAD
<a href="http://www.enginemachineservice.com/conquest.html" target="_blank">http://www.enginemachineservice.com/conquest.html</a>

$400 Rebuilt Block (Stock Specs w/ BS elim kit) --- City Motor Supply
<a href="http://www.citymotorsupply.com/" target="_blank">http://www.citymotorsupply.com/</a>

(Car didnt come with the last half of the exhaust)
$250 HiFlo Cat and Magnaflow Box --- Aapple Muffler
<a href="http://www.proexhaust.com/" target="_blank">http://www.proexhaust.com/</a>
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:54 pm Reply with quote
Quickest 5sp A187 2.6 Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 968
Well, 2 weeks later I got it all together and it rolled out and came home with me. <img src="http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Very Happy" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Car came with an already installed Centerforce Stg II Clutch so thats not a prob at the moment and I dont plan on it coming to be.
While the motor was apart I removed the divider and ported the TB Inlet. I also gutted out the stock Exhaust manifold which is a service I provide in my sig. (Shameful Plug <img src="http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Wink" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> )

Broke the motor in and went to the track! Twisted Evil Best I could muster was like a 10.6 1/8mi!! Mad

The stock turbo was junk and urinating oil into my new motor so it had to go. So I called my buddy in Fort Worth who I knew had a 14B TD05H Laying around. He thought that it was blown but didnt know for sure so we bargained it down to $50 bones and the deal was done.
Turns out, the turbo was perfectly fine HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! IN YOUR FACE JAY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Also picked up a 1G Eclipse/Talon BOV, Dodge Modded it and mounted it up with the new turbo.

Back to the track.
10.1 1/8mi
At this time I was running no boost control so it was only pulling 8psi of the stock actuator.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:10 pm Reply with quote
Quickest 5sp A187 2.6 Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 968
Now my main concern when pursuing this is to keep it safe and not push the motor too hard. So I dont want to boost the crap out of it to get into the 13's. So I figuring making small improvements, utilizing them to their max, and at the same time improving my driving skills will get me there.

Well during my driving, I noticed that sometimes under load Ill have power up top and other times it falls off. So I figure its got to be fuel. I had already changed the intank filter, engine filter, and injector clips. I installed an extra Autometer AF meter I had to see what was up and it def wasnt getting the gas needed for boost. So I figure its got to be a weak pump.

Well, pulled it out and it was like the thing was pumping pure earwax.
$120 Walbro 255HP --- APE

Swapped that out and its definatly noticeable. But its still feels as if there should be more so I hook up a 1g MAS I also had sitting around. (BINGO!)
It definatly breathes better up top. I also had a TurboXS DSBC that I installed and set boost to 10psi.

Took it to the track and went 9.73

I talked to Monty and he gave me some good tips about playing with tire pressures to help my poor 60ft's and maybe advancing the timing a bit. While I was at it I rolled boost to 12psi.

Well it definately helped. After 2 trips I got my 60's to 2.1's and my ET to 9.45
<img src="http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10142/9_45.JPG"/>

Watching my meter during my runs I was thinking, it needs to have some more fuel. I add an adjustable FPR I had from before. So coupled with the stock 1:1 ratio. This would bring it to a 2:1 ratio. Its definately richer and running stonger.

I had been searching for a used 2.5 downpipe for a while and finally found one for a good price so I snatched it up. I installed it the day it arrived. Feeling frisky I decided to tack it to the track. I notice boost had climed to 14.5 on its own by dumping the stock junk pipe.

I felt confident in my fuel system so I decided to roll it up the rest of the way to 15psi.
the track I was able to squeeze off a single 9.10 pass!! Almost there! <img src="http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Smile" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
<img src="http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10142/9_10.JPG" border="0" class="linked-image" />

The rest of the night I was camping in the 9.2's but I was plenty happy. Best part was I was consistantly dropping 2.0 60fts.

<img src="http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10142/drag4.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Now in order for me to pull 13's I figure Ill need to be pulling 8.9's at a minimum. And I want it to be consistent 13's so it ant be an occassional 8.9. So Im gonna be aiming for somewhere more in the 8.8's and 8.7's.

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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:11 pm Reply with quote
Quickest 5sp A187 2.6 Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 968
So you dont think Im pulling funny business. I previously had a Red Starion which I had alot of parts on which is where alot of these parts are coming from.

Parts on the car that I had sitting around
MSD Super Conductors
Injector Clips
K&N Filter
Autometer AF Guage

Additional parts Already Listed
2.5 TEP Downpipe/Hi Flo Cat/Magnaflo Box
Schneider 80lb Valve Springs
Alabama Cyl Head
Rebuilt Block w/ BSE
14b TD05H
Ported Ex Manifold and TB Inlet
Centerforce Clutch
Fuzion 245/45/16 rear tires

I also did all the necessary tune up stuff.
NGK Plugs
New Dist/rotor/coil
All new hoses
Recored Radiator

Also traded my guages (pretty blue setup) for a set of stockers with a white overlay and aftermarket boost guage. Get rid of the stock boost guage, its not accurate.

<img src="http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/files/979690_bqrzb/HPIM3731.JPG" border="0" class="linked-image" />
This setup has been good for
9.10 @ 76mi in the 1/8th
15psi boost
12deg adv
25psi rear tires
91 oct
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